<aside> 🎙️ Introducing Endgame, a podcast by the School of Government and Public Policy Indonesia.

https://endgame.id/about

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On this page:


The Conversation

Background

00:56 - Cultural landscape on why Sumbawanese love to argue

02:27 - Life-changing moment

03:55 - Education journey

04:28 - Academic Turned Politician

Technocracy

08:08 - Education influence in Bang Zul’s governorship: ‘Menerjemahkan Teori Jadi Nyata’

13:48 - Lessons from NTB:

  1. Sending thousands of youth abroad to shift their POV from primordialistic to nationalistic.

    Kami mengirimkan ke luar negeri bukan karena kualitas pendidikan di Indonesia rendah, tapi … supaya cara pandangnya beda.”

  2. New version of industrialization.

  3. Hosting world-class events.